Cast steel ingots for heavy open-die forgings · Melting, ladle refining and vacuum degassing, bottom pouring into cast iron moulds, hot top design and macrosegregation, chemistry limits for rotor-quality steel, and what to ask for with each heat
A forging ingot is a large steel casting made to be hot forged into heavy parts such as shafts, rotors and dies. Its quality depends on the melting and degassing route, how it is poured, and how the mould and hot top control solidification, because chemical segregation and shrinkage in the ingot cannot always be removed later. Ask three things first: the grade, chemistry limits and ingot weight you need, the melting, degassing and pouring route, and how the hot top and discard are designed to keep segregation out of the forging.
Cast carbon and low-alloy steel ingots for open-die forging, from a few tonnes to heavy ingots, including their melting, refining, vacuum degassing, teeming, moulds and hot tops. Continuously cast blooms, forged bars and finished forgings, and non-ferrous ingots (see high purity aluminium alloy ingot) are outside this page except where compared.
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A 2022 open-access paper in Metals (Ghodrati et al., with an industrial ingot producer) states that ingot casting is the primary process for heavy mono-block forgings of high-strength steels, and names the energy, transport and machinery industries as “the main users of such heavy blocks”, which are machined into power transmission shafts or forming dies. It describes a 12 t polygonal ingot of modified AISI 4130 Cr-Mo steel (0.32 C, 0.57 Mn, 0.015 P, 0.001 S, 0.27 Si, 0.23 Ni, 1.08 Cr, 0.34 Mo, 0.16 Cu wt.%) melted from scrap in an electric arc furnace, refined in a ladle furnace and vacuum degassed, then bottom-teemed for 26 min at 1580°C through a trumpet and runner into a cast iron mould. The ingot was about 2000 mm high with 1266 mm top and 1000 mm bottom diameters. [1]
US patent 3,907,547 (Method of preparing vacuum-treated steel for making ingots for forging) addresses forging ingots of great weight and high purity for rotors, turbine shafts, inductor shafts and other large steel parts, and targets vacuum-treated steel with phosphorus and sulfur each below 0.010 wt.% and carbon of 0.10 to 1 wt.%. [3]
Editorial calculation: the published heat had 0.015% P and 0.001% S, so it would meet the patent's sulfur target but not its phosphorus target; set phosphorus and sulfur limits to suit the forging, not by grade name alone. [1] [3]
Give the supplier the steel grade and full chemistry limits (including P, S and residuals), ingot weight, shape and taper, the forging it will become, melting route (EAF, ladle refining, vacuum degassing), hydrogen limit, pouring method (bottom or top teeming) and temperature, mould and hot-top design, discard allowances, heat records and ladle analysis, and any ultrasonic or macro-etch tests on trial ingots.
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The Metals paper defines macrosegregation as "the non-uniform distribution of alloying elements over several centimeters" and says it can be so severe that it cannot be removed even by long homogenising heat treatment, degrading the final part's properties. An ingot set-up comprises the mould, hot top, sideboards, riser, runner and trumpet; the hot top, at the top of the mould with sideboards and a topping compound, feeds the ingot during solidification, controls heat flow at the top, and gives a region where segregates and inclusions can gather. In the 12 t ingot the hot top was 381 mm high, lined with 177 mm insulating tiles, with two exothermic caps. [1]
Its model, validated on the sectioned ingot, found that raising the hot top by 165 mm lengthened solidification by up to 8 minutes and reduced negative and positive macrosegregation at two heights by up to 6.25% and 6.5%. [1] A 2024 follow-up in the Journal of Manufacturing and Materials Processing on the same ingot type found that changing hot-top heat capacity increased solidification time by about 2% to 31%, that a fully refractory-coated hot top reduced segregation in the hot top and upper half of the ingot, and that the new designs increased hot-top material yield by 10 to 29%. [2]
Editorial calculation: the 381 mm hot top is about 19% of the roughly 2000 mm ingot height in the published set-up; ask the supplier for the hot-top height and the top discard it plans for your ingot weight. [1]
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The forging that will be made from the ingot sets which melting route is acceptable. ASTM A788/A788M, the general-requirements specification for steel forgings, says material shall be produced primarily by electric-furnace, basic oxygen, vacuum-induction (VIM) or open-hearth melting; the primary melting may include separate degassing or refining, and may be followed by secondary melting by electroslag (ESR) or vacuum arc remelting (VAR). Its scope applies to the forging product specifications it lists, and when a product specification conflicts with A788, the product specification prevails. Certification must state the number and year date of both A788 and the product specification. [4]
Editorial note: the 12 t Cr-Mo ingot in the Metals study followed an electric arc furnace, ladle furnace and vacuum degassing route, which fits the A788 primary-melting-plus-degassing wording; state the product specification and its year in the ingot enquiry so the heat records can support the forging certificate. [1] [4]
| Product specification listed in A788 scope | Title wording | What to tell the ingot maker |
|---|---|---|
| A469/A469M | Vacuum-Treated Steel Forgings for Generator Rotors [4] | Vacuum treatment required by the title. |
| A470/A470M | Vacuum-Treated Carbon and Alloy Steel Forgings for Turbine Rotors and Shafts [4] | Vacuum treatment; compare with the P and S targets in US 3,907,547. [3] |
| A508/A508M | Quenched and Tempered Vacuum-Treated Carbon and Alloy Steel Forgings for Pressure Vessels [4] | Vacuum treatment; heat records for certification. |
| A668/A668M | Steel Forgings, Carbon and Alloy, for General Industrial Use [4] | Grade and class of the forging. |
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| Element | Role | Fix in the order |
|---|---|---|
| EAF and ladle furnace | Melt and refine. [1] | Route. |
| Vacuum degassing | Reduce gases; purity. [1] [3] | Hydrogen limit. |
| Trumpet and runner | Bottom pouring. [1] | Teeming time; temperature. |
| Cast iron mould | Shapes the ingot. [1] | Shape; taper. |
| Hot top and sideboards | Feed and insulate the top. [1] [2] | Height; lining. |
| Exothermic caps / topping | Keep the top hot. [1] | Type. |
| Discard | Removes segregated top. [2] | Allowance. |
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Chemistry rows carry the published values: 0.32% C and 0.57% Mn in the 12 t Cr-Mo heat studied, and sulphur and phosphorus each held below 0.010% in the rotor-ingot patent. Strength and hardness rows are set on the forging after heat treatment, not on the ingot. [1] [3]
| Field | What it means and published values | Ask the supplier for |
|---|---|---|
| Carbon Content (%) | E.g. 0.32% in one Cr-Mo heat; 0.10–1% in the patent. [1] [3] | Range. |
| Yield Strength (MPa) | After forging and heat treatment. | Value on test pieces. |
| Ingot Weight (kg) | E.g. 12 t studied. [1] | Weight; tolerance. |
| Cross Section (mm²) | Ingot shape and size. [1] | Drawing. |
| Manganese Content (%) | E.g. 0.57%. [1] | Range. |
| Maximum Sulfur (%) | Below 0.010% targeted for rotor ingots. [3] | Limit. |
| Forging Temperature Range (°C) | For the forging shop. | Range. |
| Tensile Strength (MPa) | After heat treatment. | Value. |
| Hardness (HBW) | Delivery condition. | Value. |
| Density (g/cm³) | Steel density. | Value. |
| Maximum Phosphorus (%) | Below 0.010% targeted. [3] | Limit. |
| Heat Treatment (°C) | Ingot or forging treatment. | Schedule. |
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Paste it into your enquiry below or into an email to a maker, then replace every bracket.
Grade: [chemistry limits; P; S; residuals; hydrogen] Ingot: [weight; shape; taper; drawing] Forging: [part; reduction] Route: [EAF; ladle refining; vacuum degassing] Pouring: [bottom or top; temperature] Hot top: [height; lining; exothermic] Discard: [top; bottom allowance] Records: [heat analysis; tests on trial ingots]
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In the published 12 t case: EAF melting, ladle refining, vacuum degassing, then bottom teeming at 1580°C into a cast iron mould with an insulated hot top. [1]
It feeds the ingot and controls top heat flow; a taller or better insulated hot top reduced macrosegregation in two MDPI studies. [1] [2]
US 3,907,547 targets phosphorus and sulfur each below 0.010 wt.% for heavy rotor and turbine shaft ingots. [3]
Electric-furnace, basic oxygen, vacuum-induction or open-hearth primary melting, optionally with degassing or refining and secondary ESR or VAR remelting. [4]
Sources checked 2026-10-11. Two open-access peer-reviewed papers (2022, 2024) report one ingot type studied with an industrial producer; the US patent describes its own steelmaking process; ASTM A788 is read from its published abstract and scope only.
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